Proper drainage difficulty
Looks great & blends in.
Paint-ready or can be made to match the color* of your existing gutter.
*Some color matches require painting.
Easy to install
Easier to get
How much does it cost?
$40 a linear ft. or $320 per 8 ft. stick plus shipping. Since we fabricate our radius gutter out of fiberglass, we might have to make the custom mold to press the pieces. About 90% of our orders do not need mold fabrication, because we have the mold in stock. We typically make our product in 8 ft sections, but if you need 35 ft. it makes more sense to get 5 @ 7 ft. sections. For pricing purposes we will use 8 ft sections.
Let's assume you need 31 linear feet:
32 ft. of radius gutter at $40 a linear ft.
Fabrication of 1 mold. Mold charge
only applies to special cases (see below)
Shipping ($175 per different radius)
Approximate price per ft including shipping
***If the order is less than 24 linear ft. and we do not have that
mold in stock there is a $250 mold fee
***Our product comes paint ready, or we will match the color of
your existing gutters. (No extra cost)
$44.06 a linear ft.
Benefits of Fiberglass vs. Metal
First, copper radius gutters, aluminum radius gutters, and zinc radius gutters will corrode over time. Depending on where you live will determine how fast the metal radius gutters will break down. A copper radius gutter will oxidize over a period of 6 to 9 months. The copper gutter usually patinas to a royal brown color. We can match that aged brown color in our fiberglass gutters. An aluminum radius gutter and a zinc radius gutter will eventually corrode, especially in the coastal areas where they are subjected to the ocean air.
10 reasons fiberglass is better than metal:
1. No solder joints means no leaks. Fiberglass gutter are continuous.
2. Smooth, continuous appearance with no unsightly bend marks.
3. Withstands extreme weather conditions. -150º to 200º F
4. Any radius can be made. We have made a radius tighter than 2 ft.
5. Can be made to any length. 8ft. sections are recommended for efficient shipping.
6. Half the cost of metal. Some companies charge more than $100 a linear ft.
7. Designed to use hidden hangers. Installation is as easy as conventional gutter.
8. Can be integrated with existing gutter systems.
9. Completely seamless. Apply a little bondo, and sand away the seam.
10. Color match of your existing gutter. We have swatches from most gutter suppliers.
SMALL GUTTER PIECES
Sizes & Styles
We can fabricate any size and style of gutter. We have made a radius as tight as 6 inches and as large as 175 ft. We can make K style (also known as Ogee), Half Round, F Style, Box Gutter, Inside Radius Gutter, Vertical Radius, and pretty much any size. We also now have a textured radius gutter.
SIZES & STYLES
Joining & Installing Seamless Gutters
Each radius piece has a special lap joint at one end. The adjoining piece will slide over the lap joint to fit nice and snug. This leaves a small seam between the pieces, but after you fill the seam with a special recommended polyester filling putty, it leaves a smooth seamless appearance that is paint ready
Our goal is to achieve a uniform, symetrical installation, so we have recommended different approaches for every application. If it's a freestanding radius (No tie-ins) you should install from the center out. See examples below.
This way you can achieve the proper slope by starting with the highest point. If you are going to tie into a straight run or a miter, it's better to start there and install from right to left or left to right.
Left side miter/right side relief
Center out install
Left to Right install
1. Insert the hidden hangers that are supplied with the radius gutter into the hidden hanger clips. The back of the hanger should rest against the back of the gutter.
2. Install piece #1 by tucking the back of the gutter behind the roof flashing as high as it will go. Place a level inside the gutter and make sure you have a 2 degree pitch to one side. Now secure the middle hidden hanger and then the others. Double check to make sure you are still draining properly.
3. Slide piece #2 over the lap joint of piece #1.The joints are lined up to the radius in the shop. If there is a gap between the 2 radius pieces, that means there is a slight discrepancy in the fascia. This can be remedied by sanding away the edges of the radius gutter that are touching, with a hand sander or block sander. NOTE- The pieces should butt up to each other nice and snug.
Joining Radius Pieces Together
Note: Make sure all radius gutter pieces are installed before applying resin and fiberglass, in case you have to make any changes to the installation.
Caution: Both the resin and hardener are FLAMMABLE. Read the Instructions and safety guidelines carefully before installing. Vapors may cause flash fire. Keep containers tightly closed and isolate from heat, electrical equipment, sparks and flame. Never use welding or cutting torch around product . Residue can ignite explosively.
1. Use a small hand clamp to hold the pieces together until the resin cures. Depending on the temperature outside, curing time may range from 15 minutes to 1 hour. You can speed up the curing process by using a blow dryer on hottest setting.
2. Use one bottle of resin and 2 ml of hardener for each lap joint. Remove the lid from the resin bottle and set to the side. Squeeze 30 to 35 drops of hardener using squeeze bottle. Replace Resin cap and shake for about 10 seconds.
3. Pour about 1/4 of the resin hardener mixture on to the lap joint and spread with brush along front and back. Apply a strip of fiberglass on to the lap joint, making sure half is on the lap joint and half is on the adjoining piece. Pour the remaining amount of resin on to the lap joint and spread evenly with the brush, making sure to dab the top, the front, and the back bead. Spread the excess resin along the inside of the gutter.
4. Let lap joint fully cure before removing clamp. (When it is no longer tacky to touch) Once the piece is bound, fill the outside
seam with the Easy Sand Polyester Finishing Putty supplied with your order. It dries in about 3 minutes, and ready to sand in 10 minutes. Use a 220 grit sand paper to achieve a smooth transition.
Caution: This product dries fast. Once you add the hardener, you have about a one minute working time before it cures.
Wear Eye Protection
Do not get in eyes.
Use safety eye wear
with splash guards
or side shields, chemical goggles, face shields.
Avoid Skin Contact
Wash contaminated clothing, including shoes, before reuse
Use solvent impermeable gloves to avoid contact with product.
Connecting to Existing Gutters
Each radius piece has a special lap joint at one end. The adjoining piece will slide over the lap joint to fit nice and snug. This leaves a small seam between the pieces, but after you fill the seam with a special recommended polyester filling putty, it leaves a smooth seamless appearance that is paint ready.
1. First, prepare the existing gutter. From the end, measure in
1 1/2". At this mark use your metal snips and cut the front lip of the gutter (where the hidden hanger fits into),including the top.
2. With a pair of bending pliers, bend up the inch and a half flap, so the radius gutter can slide into the existing gutter.
3. In the 3rd photo, the radius gutter slides into the existing gutter up to the point where the flap was cut.
4. With the bending pliers, fold the cut flap over the radius
gutter and crimp down to hold tight.
5. Lastly, seal with a gutter sealant.
Note: If your slope is correct on both pieces, the seam
will be almost unnoticeable.
Measuring a Radius
During building construction, it is common for a curved fascia to have inconsistencies. These inconsistencies can affect the way your radius gutter will look if you don't know what to do. If you have trouble with any part of the install, we are available to answer your questions any day of the week 8:00 am to 6:00 pm CST, so feel free to give us a call.
Important: Because our radius gutters are a specialty item, once you purchase our product, it's yours, so make sure you have the right radius. You will not be disappointed. We get so many compliments on how much better a seamless radius gutter looks than joining pieces of gutter together that it's well worth the investment.
1. Get a 4' x 8' piece of foam insulation board at any hardware store.
2. Fasten the foam board to the underside of the soffit or eave of the turret. (1/2” screws and a big washer works well) You can also have another person hold the board in place.
3. Take a Sharpie or magic marker and duct tape it to the end of a 4 to 6 ft. stick.
4. Go to the top side of the cardboard and trace the curve.
5. Bring the foam board back to the ground and cut out the curve with a razor.
6. Transfer the curve on to an 8 ft. piece of butcher paper or Blueprint paper with a magic marker.
Note: We recommend taking the cut out cardboard, and hold it up to the fascia in different spots. This way you can see if there are any inconsistencies in the construction. If gaps show up in the middle or the ends of the cardboard (more than ¼”), make templates for the rest of the turret, and send them also. We can look at the discrepancies and make the appropriate recommendations for what radius will work best.
7. Roll up (DON’T FOLD) the paper and stick it in a shipping tube. Send it to us at the following address. PLEASE DO NOT SEND US FOLDED UP CARDBOARD OR THIN PLASTIC. It is very hard to get a good read on the curve.
Attn. Derek Zock
800 Fulgham Ste. #24
Plano, TX 75093
Note: We recommend taking the cut out foam board, and hold it up to the fascia in different spots. This way you can see if there are any inconsistencies in the construction. If gaps show up in the middle or the ends of the foam board (more than ¼”), make templates for the rest of the turret, and send them also. We can look at the discrepancies and make the appropriate recommendations for what radius will work best.
Should I install the Radius Gutter on top of the drip edge (roof flashing) or behind it?
The same rules apply with the radius gutter as does the straight gutter. Steeper pitches like a 12/16 or a 12/24 don't necessarily need to be installed behind the drip edge, but we still recommend it, especially with Spanish or slate tile.
How do I connect the radius gutter to existing straight gutter on the house?
Similar to overlapping straight gutter, but we treat the top a little different.
Can I add a downspout to radius gutter?
Normally most radius gutters will only have a relief hole at each end that will dump onto the lower roof, but if you need a down spout treat it like metal gutter and put a relief hole in it using the appropriate punch or hole drill.
How do I get proper drainage from a really large radius?
Our general rule has been to install from left to right. Whether you are tying into straight gutter or relieving onto a lower roof, you want to make sure that you are low enough, so that when you reach the middle of the radius, you are at the highest point.
Do I need to seal the seams on the inside even though I sealed the outside?
Actually it's now a pre-requisite. We will supply you with a fiberglass resin kit for each of the seams. Once you have finished the installation, and it meets the customer's approval, you will fiberglass the inside at the lap joint. Once it cures you won't have to worry about any expansion or contraction. See Joining Radius Gutters for instructions.
What if radius gutter doesn't look uniform after the install? For example: It has a wobble appearance when viewed straight on or from underneath?
If you did not measure the radius correctly, and the radius is too big or too small to fit the gutter, you might get a wobble appearance. This is caused by forcing the gutter to fit. You can usually control this by letting up a little, or tightening down on the hidden hangers where the out of round appearance is. Also, you can push up or down on the gutter where there is a hidden hanger. The hidden hanger will bend enough to hold the new position. Careful when you do this so as not to affect the slope for drainage. Hopefully you will never have to worry about this.
How do I justify the cost to the home owner?
The home owner is spending a lot of money to renovate or build their home, so they are going to want to protect their investment. Radius Gutters serve the same purpose that straight gutters do: They protect the foundation, the landscaping, and help stop the staining to the side of your home from the pounding of water on the surrounding dirt. Most important, they want the gutters to look good. Installing pieces can really distract from the aesthetics of your beautiful home. Radius gutter will accentuate the style and appearance of the exterior and increase the overall value of your house.
after Radius Gutter
How much does it cost?
Benefits of fiberglass vs. metal
Sizes and styles
Installing seamless gutters
Joining radius gutters
Connecting to existing gutter
Measuring a radius
Justifying the cost